Thursday, March 7, 2013

Johnson Controls Cogenra and York team up!

OK we learned a little more and yes...

This IS what I've been talking about!

Dear Reader, this is the moment. Possibly our moment.

Are you are reading this because you are seeing this double whammy of increased efficiency AND reduced load / demand reduction as a game changer?

Do you compete with Johnson Controls or York? or both? We should talk. They have a neat offering, for sure, and it is game changing. But there is a still better way. I'm working on it.  Let them go educate the public about the value and role of hybrids in the generation, conservation plus the air conditioning space.  While they do that we'll generate the version that wins the day. Seriously, I can layout the advantage that I present in about 20 min.

My guess is you are reading this because you understand the problem with temperature and Photovoltaic materials.  And that you get the frustrating "loss" of the thermal potential in most PV collection schemes.  Cogenra makes sense to you but the limits on where they can install and the scale and the granularity and the temperatures seem just short of the win. And 10X suns? is that all?

Ping me.


2 comments:

  1. Hi Paul,

    My name is Dan & you replied to a comment I posted on GTM re Cogenera/Johnson Controls.
    I apologize for taking so long to respond...
    I mentioned I work for a start up, DO Energy and we're developing Hybrid PVT for quite a few good reasons and we are definitely in the right "space".
    Fact is, I started out as one of the "enemy". I'm 52 years old and have been in power generation my entire career. I've worked on construction & repair projects in oil, gas, coal & bio-mass fired utility power as well as heavy industry,(paper & oil refinery), power plants. 19 years ago I started a weld fabrication/cnc machine shop. My biggest customer was GE Gas Turbine/Greenvill SC. I designed & built a set of weld systems that allowed us to provide critical fuel system components to thier aeroderivitive gas turbines. (after 10 years Enron did a nice job of "nuking" that business plan !). My only point is that I'm not a guy with a sheet rock screw gun & a bunch of PV panels to install !
    I became interested in developing solar power systems that could exist in the power generation market because they generate power, not grants & subsidies ! Not only that, I am obsessed with doing so north of lattitude 36. In other words, areas with DNI values less than 5 hours/day. Clearly the only way to achieve this is thru efficiency, SYSTEM efficiency, not just PV efficiency. Utilities have cheap power today because that is precisely the strategy they employed that resulted in the Combined Cycle power plant that is about the only type of plant that's been built in the last 20 + years. I have yet to meet someone in the solar industry that can tell me what an HRSG is, yet it provides the model for the future of solar better than anything I've seen to date. I'm sorry but flat panel PV is a gimmick at best, some folks may be making money but it's not "power generation" the way we need power generated ! Sure, for all solar, storage is an issue, but your barking up the wrong tree if you're maxing out at 33% efficiency.
    I set out to drop you a quick note, but I really have got to get back to "work". I've checked out your blog, and for lack of better words...right on !!!!
    Blast me an e-mail, dan@radiusmanufacturing.com I'd love to continue the "discussion", get a West Coast perspective

    Regards
    Dan Demers



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  2. I've sent a reply. Would love to talk.

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